pretentious premadonnas, kathy stanard anyone!

[Chance1234]

Heres one question re proffesionalism,

Kathy, you got insurance for your shoot and proper health and safety ?

[Kathy S]

At least if he feels shitty he wont mess other people up so badly. I have no idea why he was on the project he didn't like the script, and he was going on holiday and he had a major college project on. In the end it messed up because he couldn't do the dates he said he could do. But that's all in the past now- we have finished filming and have some great shots and will start editing on friday. We didn't have proper insurance but what low budget production did. And we were filming on location at my house so it's not like we were in dangerous locations. Though my Dad was around to do electrical safety to make sure we didn't overload plugs on, had the trip thing on when filming outside. No cables to trip over. And a small team also helped in safety. Moaning on a list like this was just to let of steam, and maybe I shouldn't have put it on the list I just hoped King might learn something from it

Kathy

[Chance1234]

At least if he feels shitty he wont mess other people up so badly. I have no idea why he was on the project he didn't like the script, and he was going on holiday and he had a major college project on. In the end it messed up because he couldn't do the dates he said he could do. But that's all in the past now- we have finished filming and have some great shots and will start editing on friday. We didn't have proper insurance but what low budget production did. And we were filming on location at my house so it's not like we were in dangerous locations. Though my Dad was around to do electrical safety to make sure we didn't overload plugs on, had the trip thing on when filming outside. No cables to trip over. And a small team also helped in safety. Moaning on a list like this was just to let of steam, and maybe I shouldn't have put it on the list I just hoped King might learn something from it
Kathy

Kathy,
im going to sound a bit turncoat here, but please take it as advice not a dig, but in all fair honesty if your preaching about proffesionalism, then you have got to be proffesional yourself. If your intending for people to work for free on your set and you want to get the very best you can AND you want and expect people to be proffesional. then you have got to run a pro shot. thats the only way people will get any respect for you.

part of running a pro set is insurance and health and safety, after all know one should put themselves at unnecesarry risk for your benefit. i have a big thing about people who ignore these points, partly because i have an extremly large crew and cast, working on my feature and as produciton is taking over a year, a lot of them work on other low budget producitons in between shoot, and if any muppet blows them up, ill do worse to them. not going to go into my usual rant but check out the last rant about this here
http://www.pwrhouse.com/ubb/Forum317/HTML/002304.html

if you want to be taken seriously, and get respect then the bare minimum to get the best crew is this the following you need to offer them.

1.Pay your crew and Cast travel expensies
2.Feed you crew and cast well,
3.Provide the all important VHS copy
4.Provide a well organised pre-production and shoot
5.Provide a safe and proper set.


as a producer you are responsible for all your crew and cast on set, and words travel fast

if you run a pro shoot, treat your cast and crew well then when it comes to your next shoot youll find yourself with a lot more options. mess up and word gets round even faster. also if you dont take things like health and safety, insurance seriously then to most people your just another kid with a video camera running around. no one wants to work with a kid running around.


Chance

[Kathy S]

Yes insurance is obviously important I worked on one with a man with a blood clot riding around in traffic on a motor bike. he was a total nut and the producer shouldn't have let him do it. My set was pretty safe and as I said my Dad did electircal safety checks, all the plugs wiring and everything was checked. All the filming was done at my house- though your own house is supposebly pretty dangerous. Everyone was well fed with a proper lunch and a large box of food they could help themselves to, and a television to keep people entertained when they weren't needed. We are editing soon and they will shortly receieve a VHS copy. I paid some expenses and they all recieved a thank you present and some kept their costumes. This was my first production outside of college that I was anything more than a PA on. I think the set was well run and organised and everyone got on well and everyone exchanged numbers at the end and we're going out for a drink soon.

The only flaw was in pre production I had a lot of problems scheduling around King- who said he could do the first two weeks of June- but was on holiday for most of that time. If I had been more on the ball on got the actresses number when I met her (instead of relying on King) this may not have been a problem. But it has happened and now I'm moving on and will begin editing tommorow. Thanks for the advice Chance I know from your postings and on shooting people you have a very well run production, but I am just starting out and it will take a while to get to your scale, but for now I'm trying to be as professional as I can,

cheers once again

Kathy

[his Dudeness]

I have to quote Robert Rodriguez on this one - 'It's only a big production if you make it a big production. Dont.'

I completely agree. I believe in just getting on and doing it, rather than blowing smoke in the wind in order to amass a huge crew that - because you aren't paying them - can walk off or not turn up at any time.

Apart from the cast, I think the only person who is absolutely necessary to make the film is YOU.

[king13]

THANK YOU TO HAIRBRAIN, AT LAST SOME ONE WHO ISNT SO GULLABLE THAT THEY CANT SEE BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY, AND BELIEVE ME KATHY, AND ANYONE ELSE THATS INTERESTED, I HAVE LEARNT A LOT FROM THIS EXPERIENCE!!!